The editors at Kindle recently had the privilege to ask Eric Metaxas questions about his new bestselling biography Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy.
Amazon.com: Who was Dietrich Bonhoeffer?
Eric Metaxas: He was a German pastor and theologian who spoke out against the Nazis and eventually got involved in the plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler. He was killed by the Nazis in a concentration camp three weeks before the end of the war. He's also famous for writing two classic works of devotional literature, The Cost of Discipleship (paperback) and Life Together (paperback).
Amazon.com: What led you to write a biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer?
Eric Metaxas: I'd first heard of Bonhoeffer in the summer of 1988 and was simply amazed by his story. I was baffled that I'd never heard it before. It haunted me for years, not least because my mother is German and lived through the war, and because my grandfather was killed in the war at age 32, reluctantly fighting for a regime he hated. My mother was nine. The idea that Bonhoeffer stood up for the Jews because of his Christian faith staggered me, and I always thought that someday I would dig deeper into his life. The fact that he spent so much time in New York, where I live, also compelled me to look at his life. His monumentally brave decision to leave New York for Germany in 1939 alone makes him a fascinating figure.
Amazon.com: How was Bonhoeffer unique among pastors and theologians?
Eric Metaxas: Bonhoeffer's writings and his whole life were uniquely integrated. One sees that his life is the very incarnation of his theology. For him--and this is the main point--if you don't live the things you claim to believe, you don't really believe them at all. He believed what he wrote and what he taught, and his life and death are the spectacular and clear evidence of that. And the story of his life helps us to think about who we are and what we believe and why. A life like his can't help but be deeply inspiring. You almost can't believe it, but the evidence is there.
Amazon.com: Bonhoeffer attempted to assassinate Hitler. How did he justify murder with his Christian beliefs?
Eric Metaxas: He didn't necessarily justify it. He was never one hundred percent sure that it was the right thing to do. But his position was that if he was wrong, he cast himself on God's mercy, because even though he couldn't be completely sure it was God's will, he knew that he couldn't shrink from action, just because he had some doubt. That would be far worse.
On the other hand, he would have justified it by asking us questions, such as what would we do if a drunk driver is killing pedestrians left and right on a busy street? Do we stop him if it means killing him? That's what he saw happening with the Third Reich. Something had to be done, for the sake of the innocents being killed. Also, let's be clear that the bible condemns murder, but it doesn't condemn all killing, else it would imply that David was wrong in killing Goliath, which it obviously doesn't. David didn't murder Goliath, but he did kill him. There's a world of difference.
Amazon.com: Can you tell us about the process of writing this book?
Eric Metaxas: It was an unspeakably intense experience, one I wish never to repeat, nor much to remember, frankly. It was like sprinting twenty-six point two miles. I thought my heart would burst. That it didn't is something of a miracle. Who can really fathom the creative process?
Amazon.com: How did your own faith intersect with writing this book?
Eric Metaxas: In many ways. First of all I first heard of Bonhoeffer the summer I returned to faith in 1988, four years after graduating from Yale, which is a very secular environment. I was amazed that a man, because of his Christian faith had stood up for the Jews and had died in a concentration camp. That level of faith, of someone living it out that way, really moved me. Also, because the writing was so difficult and so intense, I've simply never prayed harder in my life. I had a sometimes palpable sense of God's presence with me as I wrote. Of course that's an extraordinary thing to say, but it's quite true.
Amazon.com: What was the most fascinating thing you learned in the process of writing Bonhoeffer?
Eric Metaxas: Where to start? Perhaps the most amazing thing was to see how seriously he took his faith all the way to the end, all the way to the gallows. Some have wrongly thought of him as turning into a type of agnostic humanist at the very end of his life, but I was amazed to see that not only was this not true, but there is overwhelming evidence that the very opposite is true. His faith in God was strong to the very day he went to his death. He even performed a service for his fellow prisoners and preached a sermon to them just eighteen hours or so before being executed. I think the evidence of this has shocked some people, who had a completely different idea of who Bonhoeffer was. It certainly surprised me.
Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy is available on Kindle for $9.90.
Eric Metaxas is the author of two New York Times bestselling biographies, Bonhoeffer and Amazing Grace: William Wilberforce and the Heroic Campaign to End Slavery. He is also the author of the Everything You Always Wanted to Know About God (but were afraid to ask) trilogy and 30 award-winning children's books, including It's Time to Sleep, My Love (hardcover). He lives in New York City with his wife and daughter.